Eileen Bettesworth's Diary

When Me'n'Mine was active in 1966-67, the group had a fan club - it was more the done thing in those days. Originally the fan club was run by Shirley (forget surname), but Eileen Bettesworth and her friend Lynn Congram took over the running of it in August 1966 (see entry for 14/8/66). Eileen was then known as "Ei" which I remember we thought at the time was a rather unusual name, but we put it down to her Englishness - she was an immigrant after all. Ei first saw us play (according to the diary) at Cabramatta Town Hall where we played a few gigs as the weekly house band supporting a guest appearance by one of John Harrigan's acts such as Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs, The Throb, or Him & The Others who came to the gig to play one set after appearing live on the Billy Thorpe TV show It's All Happening.
After Me'n'Mine and then its successor The Seen ceased business and we all started off in different directions, Eileen took up with John Lamerton, married him, produced two boys and lived happily ever after in Canberra. She became a widow in 1997. Working as Complaints Manager at the Advertising Standards Bureau, in mid-2004 she received a letter from one Patrick McMahon, and that's how we found her again. It turns out that Eileen is something of an expert on fan clubs - some years after Me'n'Mine, she ran the ACT branch of the Australian Cliff Richard Fan Club. And if Donny Osmond had an ACT fan club, she would probably be right there at the helm today.

Eileen kept a diary during her days as a Me'n'Mine fan and has kindly allowed us to publish it here, warts and all - but with some personal items edited out (and I suspect some of the uglier warts too). I added a few explanatory notes at the bottom of the page.

Just remember that most of us were still teenagers when this was written.

Thanks Eileen.

 


Ei Bettesworth, Jimmy Penson & Patrick McMahon


Eileen Lamerton


Jimmy's sister Helen, who gets several mentions in the diary.
We only found her in 2009 after her cousin Theo stumbled onto this website.
Thats Helen's & Jim's Mum in the background.


The Diary

29 May 66

Vera's flat warming and Billy Thorpe dance at Cabramatta with Sandy. Saw fab group Me'n'Mine and got souvenirs. Billy horrid but MnM terrific guys. Friendly.

5 June 66

Went to Cabra to see MnM again. John asked me to ring him. Tony Barber didn't turn up so we saw Throb instead.

6 June 66

Rang John & Pat but not in so rang Paul and P&J were over there. Talked to John for 20 mins and Paul for 10 mins. Posted money for fan club.

9 Jun 66

Rec'd fan club membership card.

11 Jun 66

John rang me and I told him Gerry (Liverpool CYO) was coming to see them perform at Lakemba ("CYO" - see note 1)

12 Jun 66

MnM at Lakemba CYO. W them and talked backstage and they asked us to come home to Rob's place for a little party after to celebrate Paul's 19th birthday. Got home 2.30am

13 Jun 66

Liverpool CYO car rally. Pat and Kevin started but never finished. Our car got bogged and lost and everything. Ended up at dance with "kids" band. Left at 8.30 - John nearly asleep

14 Jun 66

Back to work where no one will believe what we did with the group

16 Jun 66

Gerry told us boys definitely hired for harbour cruise

18 Jun 66

Went to see group at Fellowship House in Sydney. John and Kevin drove us to parking lot. Invited for coffee.

23 Jun 66

Got my ticket for harbour cruise. Rang Kevin and decided to see boys at Ramsgate national Fitness Hall

24 Jun 66

Sandy decided she didn't want to see the boys so Lynn and I aren't talking to her. I will ring Pat tomorrow and find out about Sunday

25 Jun 66

Rang Pat but no bookings

29 Jun 66

Pat's 17th birthday - sent card and plectrum

30 Jun 66

Shirley rang to tell me where boys are playing

2 Jul 66

Yagoona Congregational Church. Me & Lynn are going. Boys arrived an hour late. Paul mischievous. All boys talked to us. Pat used my plectrum.

6 Jul 66

Kevin rang to make final details for harbour cruise

8 Jul 66

Belmore Boys High. Shirley reckoned the boys played the best ever, but we didn't go

9 Jul 66

Teenage cabaret really fab. Paul got thru "I Believe" all right this time. John Kevin & Paul talked to us after the dance. Will see them tomorrow at BBQ

10 Jul 66

Party/Bbq for fan club and Lakemba CYO dance. Party at Pauline's place. Pauline sickening but boys gear. Pat kept grabbing me. He had terrible hangover at dance tonight

11 Jul 66

Put in films to be developed

13 Jul 66

Got films which came out better than expected

16 Jul 66

Harbour cruise. Showed photos - boys approved. Going thru the Heads Paul nearly fell over while singing. John dead tired and nearly fell asleep.

21 Jul 66

Phoned Kevin but boys not booked this weekend. However 3 nites next week

29 Jul 66

No booking tonight after all

30 Jul 66

Boys at Teenage cabaret - Fabbo! Met boys in George St. Rob sick so Lindsay took over. John nearly broke my leg and Pat grabbed me. Noticed Paul had hair cut. Lynn and I met Helen Penson

31 Jul 66

Boys at Liverpool CYO. Great, fab, gear! Asked John to go to Ball - said yes if he's free. John sang "I'm A Man" twice for me. Talked to all the boys. Their creepy friends came - ruined everything

6 Aug 66

Boys may appear at opening of new Wesley Centre - Kevin said they're not - nowhere this weekend

7 Aug 66

John's 19th birthday

12 Aug 66

Band playing at Punchbowl CYO I think. We went - but boys pathetic and in bad mood. Pat made Jimmy cry and John left stage in a huff

13 Aug 66

Boys play at new Wesley Centre but we didn't go - only playing for 3/4 hour. Pat lost his guitar. They had beaut time

14 Aug 66

Boys at Lakemba CYO. Lynn and I went. Boys in fab mood. Kevin & Lindsay found Pat's guitar. Lynn and I were asked to take over running of fan club - we said yes

19 Aug 66

Kevin rang at 1pm and said Lynn and I were definitely in for the fan club. Asked us to come for a meeting tomorrow after 1pm bcs the boys were practicing all afternoon

20 Aug 66

We went to meeting and heard boys own compositions. Lynn and I picked records for their first record. Thought they were playing at Teen Cabaret but they weren't. Boys drove us to station

21 Aug 66

Playing Liverpool CYO Beatnik Night. It was real fab - the best dance I've seen them play at. Boys get more friendly every night

25 Aug 66

Another meeting to compose first newsletter. Tea at Kevin's place. Smashing time. Kev, John, Pat & Paul drove us home. Officially took over fan club. John said he couldn't come to the Ball.

26 Aug 66

Rang John to make sure he didn't put Mrs Giaquinto's phone no on membership cards. John went to see "Hold On" - I'm seeing it tonight

27 Aug 66

Boys on at new Teenage Cabaret. Will be my first nite at the new one. No it isn't - they're not going after all. Lynn came over to do fan club letters for members

2 Sep 66

Army Ball - didn't go cos John couldn't come. Had a chance to go with Warren Sanger. Didn't care about the Ball really

3 Sep 66

Boys reckon they're definitely at TC. I, June and Lynn went but boys not on. I rang John in a rage, but John was more upset than I was. Arranged a meeting for Monday after work

5 Sep 66

Meeting. Rob didn't come. Boys decided to start with a new name, so we poured over encyclopaedias and atlases looking for suggestions. Pat and John were thrilled with the bracelets we bought them

11 Sept 66

Boys at Lakemba CYO. Sand "Yellow Submarine", "Sunny Afternoon" and "You Better Run" for the first time. Wore bell-bottoms

13 Sep 66

Boys turned up at Lynn's for a meeting, but had forgotten to tell us. They only stayed an hour and I didn't see them

16 Sep 66

Lynn's 17th birthday. Hostel harbour cruise was not on. Kevin couldn't see eye to eye with youth director over a price

18 Sep 66

Liverpool CYO. Boys coming to Lynn's place for tea. Couldn't come after all. John & Pat in Wests Aussie Rules team - they won 9 - 8. Fabulous mood. Kev told us about regular Sat nite dance

19 Sep 66

Saw John's name in paper as goal-scorer. However we're wondering if they got mixed up with Pat. No meeting cos it's no good without a name

20 Sep 66

Write letters about correspondence to fan club

23 Sep 66

Had to ring Kev at 9. I rang but he's not home

24 Sep 66

Managed to get Kevin and boys practicing at Rob's place. Playing at private do in Marrickville

1 Oct 66

Went to Teen Cabaret - Gino Cunico was on as well

9 Oct 66

First dance with new name at Lakemba CYO. Boys great - met Lynn, Tracey & Lorraine Atkinson and Marg, Paul's sister. Saw woman who made Tom Jones shirts. Saw Mr/s McMahon.

10 Oct 66

Boys came and for once Pat and Paul helped with the wiping up. Lynn's dog refused to make friend with Kevin. Made plans for Rivoli dance

15 Oct 66

Beverley Hills School of Arts is a tin shed! But boys gorgeous. Saw creepy girl who followed Jimmy. Kev drove me Lynn and June home.

16 Oct 66

Liverpool CYO dance. John ran across stage in his underpants. Met Trish. John & Pat sunburnt - been to beach. Brought poster - boys liked it. Blackout in Liverpool bcs of storm - not many people at dance

21 Oct 66

Nth Sydney Police Boys Club all right. When boys drove Clare & Joy home we got embarrassed. Boys tried to cheer us up. Pat fell over. John climbed stairs on all fours. I cuddled Paul when he put on an accent. Did "sex" test

22 Oct 66

Beverley Hills - only June and I went. Boys were rotten players & Paul was upset cos I told him so. Pat drunk, John moody. Saw Pat in underpants. Gave Rob Birthday card and he said he'd give us a big kiss next week.

24 Oct 66

Rob's 18th birthday

28 Oct 66

Revesby Community Hall - kids 7 - 11 screamed as boys came on stage - boys embarrassed. Played beautifully. During presentation, Pat John & Paul went to pub to see go-go girls. Saw John in underpants again. Paul talked a lot.

29 Oct 66

Beverly Hills S of A. Gave boys question sheets about early band. John told me to barn dance. Paul wiggled. Pat not feeling well, but cheered up later.

30 Oct 66

Teenage Cabaret - saved Paul's life. Met Sandy Summers. Swa Great Race. Curtain closed during Mystic Eyes. John tried to strangle me. Rob & Paul played piano. Told Pat about "In My Life". Kev lost photos again. Spoke to Murphy.

31 Oct 66

Rivoli Hurstville w/Allusions. Boys better than Allusions. Didn't make one mistake. Boys sang "You Better Run" and "Don't Bring Me Down" better. Lynn nearly killed herself. Paul said not to. Paul Rob & John singing near us.

12 Nov 66

Beverley Hills S of A - window smashed. Me only went. John & Paul drove me home. Nearly killed. Read Kings Cross Whisper. Jimmy's jokes backfiring. Phil not there. Paul spoke about Animals & Stones. Jim used my head as drum.

13 Nov 66

Lakemba CYO. Paul told me about car. John's girl not there. Didn't meet parents. Paul's chewing gum. Wore suits. Kevin said BBQ at Joy's place.

14 Nov 66

Kev rang me twice but still doesn't know what street Revesby High School is in

18 Nov 66

Revesby Girls High - we couldn't get in. Got membership cards. Paul broke mike. Garry came. John, Pat & Garry on train. John's cufflinks. Gave us his coat. Got Pat's questions. Kev wanted ciggie - "don't all rush". Skivvies and bellbottoms.

19 Nov 66

Teenage Cabaret - kicked out

20 Nov 66

Liverpool CYO - not many people. Boys hot in suits. Gave Paul & Pat drink. Boys late 8.30. Pat at Darlinghurst.

22 Nov 66

Kevin rang to tell me boys had cancelled all appearances till Dec 11th

23 Nov 66

Rang up Pat to tell him about Mum & Dad

26 Nov 66

Beverley Hills cancelled. Rang Paul and he said 2 things wrong - one bad, one good. Good outweighs bad. John rang.

28 Nov 66

I rang John and he said they played Beverley Hills after all

7 Dec 66

Belmore Boys High School. Went with Keith. Paul & toilet paper. Asked John to sing "I Put A Spell On You". Paul wiggled "I'll Cry Instead". I sprayed him with perfume. "As Tears Go By".

10 Dec 66

Beverley Hills - fight broke out - drunk boys. Paul sang for 2 hours on a gargle. Mexican hat

11 Dec 66

Had girl singer. I had to leave room while Paul changed, but returned while Pat changed. John terrific - called June on stage. Go go contest

13 Dec 66

Pat rang to tell me boys playing at Rivoli on Sat night

17 Dec 66

Rivoli Hurstville. Terrific - but boys had to be too professional. Wore suits. Their girlfriends came. 50 - 50 dance and Paul didn't wiggle. Jimmy had hair out - looked funny

18 Dec 66

Liverpool CYO - Christmas Dance - didn't wear suits. Best I've ever been to. Boys liked placards. Lexie came. Lenny only danced last bracket with me. Looked at Rob's new guitar. Mum came - thinks they're fab

23 Dec 66

Pat & John going to Melb for few days. Lynn to Qld

28 Dec 66

Went to Helen & Jimmy's place for the day. Found out boys' nicknames and how much Jimmy admires John. Mrs Penson told me about Jimmy joining Pat's group

31 Dec 66

Went to Roselands with Helen P to see David McCallum but he was 2 hrs late. Saw Rob Pat & John in afternoon. Playing at Katoomba - no not

7 Jan 67

Beverley Hills S of A. Fight developed. Lynne there. Didn't smile at Pat - he was worried. Paul's and my jeans. John liked Melb. Paul & Rob striped trousers. Mr Askew drove us to Wiley park Stn. Slapped boy. Phil there.

8 Jan 67

Lakemba CYO Caught taxi. Boys terrific. Paul said June was like Indian not horse. Butter Menthol

13 Jan 67

Fan Club Party. Boys gave me huge birthday card for yesterday. Total birthday kisses Rob - 3, Jimmy - 3, Lu - 2, Pat - 1. John left early in a bad mood. Pat Lu & Rob "3 Stooges" ("Lu" - see note 2)

14 Jan 67

St Andrews Lakemba. Said they all enjoyed the party.

1 Feb 67

Pat & John's place. Went over newsletter and drank coke. P & J terrific and talked about early band. John grabbed his young brother's bike and went to station with us.

4 Feb 67

Lakemba C of E - wore new dress - Paul said "very sexy" - sang "Hey Little Girl". Has lost weight. Took photos to show Rob & Jim. All boys read newsletter.

8 Feb 67

Rang Pat to see if they're coming over tonite - but they'll come tomorrow

9 Feb 67

John Pat & Kevin for fan club meeting. Had great time. John & condensed milk - ate all my Mum's. Pat & sticky choc biscuits. Only coke. Heard demo disc. Not bad but nothing outstanding.

10 Feb 67

Lu thought boys coming over tomight but I rang & told him Pat & John came yesterday. Lu angry - could have seen "Weird Mob". Talked about tele-view cameras in shower. He was jokingly sarcastic with my Mum. Practice at his place tomorrow.

11 Feb 67

Beverley Hills at last minute. Lu never said hello or smiled or wiggled - mad at other boys. Asked about Vera's party - Rob said he'd come. Played well - Rob blasted us with bass. Got Aspros for Pat. Pat called names. Big fight erupting.

13 Feb 67

Boys for fan club meeting. We'd intended to blast them about newsletter, but they were so lovable we forgot. Pat apologised. Lu ate iced vo-vo. "Queens" harbour cruise. Football. Lu & John hate "steadies". Tore up my street noisy. New newsletter

15 Feb 67

Rang Pat to ask if no bookings for weekend

16 Feb 67

Pat rang to ask where party was - said he might come. Lu & John intended to go to a disco. Asked if Vera knew a girl named Denile.

17 Feb 67

Vera's party. With Lenny all night. All Limmericks came. Kept bashing into Lu and missing beat. Learning song on way to my new flat. Lu met Fred. He had half my lemonade.

18 Feb 67

Finished some more posters for the boys' dance tomorrow night

19 Feb 67

Loverpool CYO. Ultra-violet light. Dress or trousers. John screamed rape and gave me a lemonade bath and fruity-pine shampoo. Lu played piano and drums. Lu threw streamers. Took 2 B&W and 1 colour film.

21 Feb 67

Hope to get photos of dance and party today

22 Feb 67

Band should be coming over

4 Mar 67

Beverley Hills. Paul mucked around with my hair. John in a bad mood. Paul sang "Misunderstood" and "Too many times". Narelle there. I nearly got abducted. Boys autographed my photo

7 Mar 67

Meeting with Limmericks. They yelled as us and we yelled at them. We got the worst of it. We were really shocked at some of the things the boys thought about us.

8 Mar 67

Lynn and I had a discussion about last night and decided the boys hadn't be very fair. They've dropped in our estimation. Lu stuck up for us the most

10 Mar 67

Pat supposed to ring but didn't

13 Mar 67

Pat rang me just to say hello and talk to me

19 Mar 67

Liverpool CYO. Boyfriend Mike didn't come do Lu cheered me up wit "Down Home Girl"

24 Mar 67

Boys not playing over Easter

29 Mar 67

Limmericks came for fan club meeting. Money situation sorted out. My cousin Rosanna loves them - especially John. Gave Lynn a present

7 Apr 67

Liverpool CYO Harbour Cruise. Finally met penfriend Colin at last. Quite nice. Band terrific.

8 Apr 67

Boys at Beverley Hills. Sang 3 new Hollies numbers. John fainted on stage. My purse stolen with $40 and Animals tickets in it. John gave me money to get home.

14 Apr 67

Boys played private party Bronte SLS Club

15 Apr 67

Beverley hills. Paul born with "plastic spoon". John friendly. 2 lots of girlfriends there - trouble. Went by myself. Left bag in dressing room.

16 Apr 67

Boys liked my newsletter. Lu wore striped pants. In a terrific mood. Robin tried to get off with Lu. June thinks she likes him.

21 Apr 67

Punchbowl Girl Guides. Saw Robin off at Central and then went straight to boys guest appearance at Punchbowl dance. "The Trend" didn't show up so Limms played till 10pm

22 Apr 67

Beverely Hills

23 Apr 67

Miranda CYO's first dance. Went with Robin , Chris and June' "The Assassins", previously regualr group were criticised. Power failure. Boys got regular booking, despite setbacks during the night

25 Apr 67

Lu due in hospital. Doc Dedman home from Vietnam (Hospital: see note 3)

27 Apr 67

Lu still not admitted to hospital. I asked him to ring and tell me when he goes in

30 Apr 67

Spoke to Margaret - Lu still out - is trying to get boys to go on without him - but they don't want to. Marg told me about Teenage Fair last year.

6  May 67

Limms at Uni NSW - no not. At Beverley Hills. Lu sorry he inconvenienced me. John & Paul fight. Mr Askew drove me, Pat & John home. Pat's hand sprained - Lindsay took over. He was good!

13 May 67

Limms at Lakemba C of E - Ian might take me if not doing drill. No drill.

14 May 67

Lakemba CYO - Lynn went home.

20 May 67

Babysat next door - rang and talked to Margaret and Paul.

21 May 67

Liverpool CYO - Marg came. Paul wore his pants. Pat soaked Jim's ciggies. Rob looked at my record player to fix. Lu loves "Marina". John bludged Jim's drink by licking bottle top. Lu hit me in the eye with streamer

27 May 67

Vera's party. Lenny and John Hammond tried to make me forget the Limms and support the Miopic Visionaries. Got Paul's pane of glass

28 May 67

Went with Chris by train. Had to leave a bit early. Lu in a terrific mood doing "The Stripper". Berries beaten. John just sang while Lindsay played. Hand out of plaster

29 May 67

First anniversary of the day I met the band

3 Jun 67

Lakemba C of E. Went with June. Lu gave her a birthday kiss. John playing again. Lu swore at John after Juliet. Some fans coming to Army gig. Jimmy kept losing his drumsticks. Caught wrong train home

9 Jun 67

Ian home - came to see me. Said we'll go to see Limms then drive-in

10 Jun 67

Limms at private party. Went to see Helen. Limms yelled at me - I don't care much for them after that. To top it all, got home to telegram from Ian "Unable to go out Sunday nite. Explain Tuesday. Matter inescapable. Love Ian".

11 Jun 67

Lakemba CYO and Midnight Drive-in. Lakemba with June cos Ian can't come. Lu wore brown suit - looked gas! Pat John & Jim didn't come near us. Rob scalded on hot water bottle. Lu loved bracelet.

12 Jun 67

Paul's birthday. On way home from dance, June and I sang Happy Birthday to Lu after midnight. Last night Limms sang Happy Together and Young Girl for first time! Gas!

17 Jun 67

Seeing if I can buy way-out gear for Army dance. Didn't get none

18 Jun 67

Loverpool CYO. Still not talking to Jimmy. Lu wore suit & bracelet. John & Sandy there - took photos of band. No streamers allowed

24 Jun 67

2BOD Gym - football club dance. Band got terrific reception. Lynn came down. I did barn dance with Lu

25 Jun 67

Miranda CYO - Ian took me with Julie, Lynne and June

4 Jul 67

Pat rang to say the band can't come over this week

5 Jul 67

Pat rang

8 Jul 67

Limms at Lakemba C of E. Peter came down for weekend. Lu said he'd come to Army Ball with me. John & Pat swapped pants. Showed Liverpool photos. Rob spoke about my record player

9 Jul 67

Lakemba CYO. Went home early cos June was sick. Spoke to Phil who's very cute. Pat gave me a Limmerick Tickle. Saw Pat's grey two-tone Holden. Doesn't know if they're coming over yet this week

16 Jul 67

Liverpool CYO. Terrific dance - Eskimo Night. John in a terrific mood. Rob took record player home to fix it. Lu played "The Stripper" after the dance - and stripped! John and Pat said they'd sack me for having no names. John & Jimmy coming on Wed

19 Jul 67

John Jimmy & Pat over for fan club meeting - left at 10pm

23 Jul 67

Miranda CYO. No taxis so Paul & Rob drove me home. Went to Rob's to leave gear in garage. Had a drink. Rob's dopey card trick and Paul's pathetic joke. Lu's new coat & trousers. Gave "Stripper" record. Lu wants girl singer

4 Aug 67

Rang John about Penshurst

5 Aug 67

Went to Liverpool to buy John McM birthday present

6 Aug 67

Penshurst CYO. Got there 9pm. Lu a bit moody but John & Pat beaut. Pat missed me and we got stares when we walked out. Money from boys. Got kiss from John. Sang "A Little Help From My Friends" and "What Kind of Boy".

7 Aug 67

John's 20th birthday - boys at my place till 2 this morning. Pat Jim & John drove me home - flooded at Milperra. Gave them coffee & Toast. John's velour hat & Pat's cockney cap. John's ballerina. Jim fell asleep

12 Aug 67

Lakemba C of E. Saw Elizabeth and invited her and she came. Told Pat & John about Rules. Pat said he hated the "fat girl". Some boys started a fight and dance cancelled at 1/4 to 11. John & Pat in bad mood. Rob's scungy slippers.

13 Aug 67

Lakemba CYO. Train strike so I had to leave early. Had fight with Lu cos he called me a "bugger". Got record player back - unfixed. Went to Rules for first time with Andy. Pat there but we didn't see him.

20 Aug 67

Liverpool CYO. Lu asked me when Ball is on. Told them I might not come to Engadine. Flash on camera wouldn't work.

22 Aug 67

Rang Lu about record and Ball. Said he'd make all arrangements to pick me up. Paul couldn't tell me about Engadine but asked me to ring him at home

26 Aug 67

Engadine CYO. Got home from mountains trip with Andy in time to go to dance. John told off fat Robyn. Took candid photos. Went for coffee with boys next door. Rob & Lu drove me home. Pat met Sandra.

27 Jul 67

Miranda CYO. Sick all day but dragged myself to dance.Nellie, Lindsay and friend there. Pat not very friendly but no matter. June came but we didn't dance much

29 Jul 67

Went to meeting to discuss Army dance. Lu rang and beaut! - no hospital till Sept 13, so he can take me to the Ball.

30 Jul 67

Pat broke off with Lynne Sorenson and now he's taking Sandra out. Had to tell Lt Williams that band can't play at Army dance cos Lu will be going into hospital.

31 Aug 67

Rang John to ask what arrangements we could make if they can't play at Army dance. Asked him to tell Lu about Gymea so that he could tell me on Friday night at the Ball

1 Sep 67

Ordnance Army Ball. Took photos. Paddy joking about Limms. Great night - got home 3am

2 Sep 67

No gig tonight so Andy and I drove north along the beaches

3 Sep 67

Gymea CYO. Terriffic. I looked after Lu's coat. Taught Jimmy "Pride of Erin" and helped him pack up his drums. Gave Lu his records. Threw drum at him. Showed Engadine photos. Lynn Sorensen showed up. Got lift to Lakemba with Pat

10 Sep 67

Lakemba CYO. Left home for dance, but it was cancelled. Went back to Macka's to watch tele and play records

13 Sep 67

Lu goes into hospital for operation - we hope! He did.

14 Sep 67

Rang Mrs Mack and she said Lu will have operation between 2 - 4pm. She was very helpful with visiting hours so I might drop in on Sat

15 Sep 67

Rang Mrs Mack and she reckons Lu is very sick but getting better.

16 Sep 67

Army dance. Bcs we couldn't play we had to get The Trend - they were shocking. Saw Lu in hospital and we watched Berries lose League to Souths. Paul a bit painful but feeling okay

17 Sep 67

Aussie Rules grand final & Liverpool CYO. Pat's team (3rd grade) lost, but John's (2nd grade) won. 1st grade lost to Newtown. 3 fights in 1st and 1 in 2nd. Pat started fight and got knocked unconscious. No CYO dance - they had The Trend instead

18 Sep 67

Went to visit Lu in hospital & his 3 mates were there. Paul joking about doctors' tea breaks. Mr Mack gave me lift to Wiley Park. Paul better in health & spirit

19 Sep 67

Lu left hospital & will have his stitches in for a month. Pat came over to take photos and caught me in my pyjamas. Told me John received his call-up papers yesterday

21 Sep 67

Went to visit Lu at home and stayed for tea. Watched Monkees and listened to Sgt Pepper. Rob came over and drove me to Wiley park in his Dad's new station wagon. Lu looked very well

23 Sep 67

Aussie Rules grand final in Melb - Pat & John not going after all

24 Sep 67

Miranda CYO

Lu strapped up and sitting on chair to sing. Played organ for 1st time. Lu yelled in my ear and I screamed. John friendly. Rob played organ terrific

25 Sep 67

Lu rang to tell me that Peter, Lindsay and Robert had been sent home from school bcs they had long hair. We talked for 1/2 hour

28 Sep 67

Marg & Peter McCormack's 16th birthday.

7 Oct 67

Went to Lakemba, then rang Marg and she said Paul's very sick. Went to Jimmy's for 1/2 hour and talked to him, then went home. Jim told me of Pat's footy accident

8 Oct 67

Lakemba CYO. Gave John Sgt Pepper. Pat on crutches, but Lu standing okay. Organ sounded terrible compared to Miranda. Danced with Nellie all night. Walked to station with Lynn Sorenson. Yuk! No Sandra

12 Oct 67

John rang to tell me of band break up! (see note 4)

13 Oct 67

Band came over, except Rob. Explained reasons for breaking up. Boys looked at letters, photos etc. Drank coke. Listened to Sgt Peppers. Had to go when Lu's arm started hurting. Noisy when leaving.

14 Oct 67

Lakemba C of E. John E stood me up so I went to dance by taxi. Jimmy cried. Rob gave me a lily - John crushed it! Rob Toth and group played. Good.

15 Oct 67

Liverpool CYO. John E coming - no he couldn't. Music good, but morale low cos of break up. John & Pat picked up 2 girls and left Jim & Rob to pack up all equipment. Lu very angry. Trish & Marg came. Uncle Frank died yesterday.

17 Oct 67

John E picked me up from work and took me home. I had to type up fan letters so he fell asleep on the bed

22 Oct 67

Miranda CYO. Harbour Cruise with John E. Ignored me so we broke up. Went to dance - terrific. Pat played paino & he and Lu sang dirty songs. Pat & chips a Chequers. John's jokes about Jim's nose. Trish drove me to Wiley Park

24 Oct 67

Lu got his stitches out

25 Oct 67

Rang Lu to see how his arm is but no one home

27 Oct 67

Went to Sydney and bumped into Helen in Djs. Went to visit Lu and went with him to hospital for physio.

31 Oct 67

Rang Lu and he told me about Brenda's letter

5 Nov 67

Gymea CYO. Limms last dance. Photos & streamers. John cried. Aussie Rules team were there. Got guitar pick from Pat. Got lots of kisses. I was almost crying on way home. They're lovely boys!

6 Nov 67

Very sad today cos everyone's joking about limm's finish. Still, I don't care - I still love them

8 Nov 67

Got Gymea photos back and they're not bad. Rang Lu, but her went back to work today

9 Nov 67

Spoke to John about returning my photos, he said he'd bring them over one night. Told me band's new lead singer had been killed last Sat night

12 Nov 67

Went to Liverpool dance to see what new band is like so John didn't come over. Not a bad band. But crowd prefers Limms

13 Nov 67

Rang John to find out when he can come over, but told me to ring on Friday and he'll see what he's doing

16 Nov 67

Went to look at Ray McCormack's (Paul's aunt) house as she's looking for someone to move in

20 Nov 67

Jim told me Lu will be rejoining the band when I rang him. Jim will bring photos to party

21 Nov 67

Rang Lu and he didn't mention rejoining band but he may not want anyone to know yet - or is Jimmy having me on?

23 Nov 67

Left home to live with ray

25 Nov 67

had to break shopping date with Marg to go to a church picnic - but it rained

26 Nov 67

John Pat & Tony came over to bring photos. Liked my wall decorations. Pat made funny comments on backs of his photos

27 Nov 67

Rang Lu to ask about Sandy's wedding, he said he'd like to come. Posted invitations to my 21st

1 Dec 67

Rang Lu to ask how to get to party tomorrow night - got to ring Marg. John Lamerton started work today - June said he's cute. Went over to Lu's and spoke to Marg all night

2 Dec 67

Band's party at Bondi. A bit of a drag as it wasn't what we expected it to be. John brought Aussie Rules team and that livened it up.

9 Dec 67

Shopping with Marg. Were there late and saw Jimmy and sh said he can't find photos.

14 Dec 67

Chris McCormack (Paul's cousin) rang from Canberra and told me Ray is in P'Matta Hospital. Visited Lu and family to tell them. Paul came home with us.

15 Dec 67

Chris arrived

16 Dec 67

Chris missed plane home so we went over to Lu's - all going to BBQ at fay's place

17 Dec 67

Liverpool CYO with The Trend. Not very good. Trend has improved - but there was a lot of room for improvement.

25 Dec 67

Alone at Rays place - had baked beans for Christmas lunch. Rang Lu tonight and he invited me over for the evening. Trish, Lu and I played scrabble and listened to records. Paul and Mr Mack drove me home to Ray's at 1.30am

3 Jan 68

Moved into bedsit at Cabramatta.

4 Jan 68

John said he'd come over with Pat on Monday to get record. Told him I'd moved, and gave the address

6 Jan 68

Sandy and John's wedding with Lu. John Pat & Trish drove us to church. Frog under tyres. Down By The Riverside.

7 Jan 68

John Pat & Jim came over tonight

12 Jan 68

My birthday - my 21st party postponed at June's request - so that John Lamerton could come - away at CMF camp

13 Jan 68

Trish's birthday. BBQ - raining but still on. I went over at lunchtime to help prepare and stayed all night. Slept on lounge. Lu was hosing lawn in the rain.

21 Jan 68

Liverpool CYO with Trend. "Seen" came to see if they could get an audition but it will have to be put to the committee ("Seen": see note 5)

1 Feb 68

Pat rang to ask Jan Dawes to come to my 21st with him

2 Feb 68

Pat rang and we talked for 1/2 hour about my party. He said "We'll make it good for you" - and I felt real good!

3 Feb 68

My 21st party - smashing. "Seen" band was great.

11 Feb

Seen's first Lakemba dance. Very good. Lu came but we had a fight.

17 Feb 68

Fan club meeting with band. Went to practice at C of E hall at Lakemba. Not much business. 1 - 4.30. Played 1/2 hour guest spot at Shrublands Marrickville with Plastic Tears. I went - pretty good

24 Feb 68

Seen at Kogarah Bay but I didn't go - too far

29 Feb 68

Narelle told me the Seen is playing at Liverpool this Sunday - whacko!

3 March 68

Seen play Liverpool for first time. It was tremendous! The band got a terrific reception even if one of the speakers blew up

4 Mar 68

Rang Rob and talked about the fan club for 1/2 hour

10 Mar 68

Seen's Lakemba dance. I went early to put up fan club posters. Boys singing more new songs every week. John Pat & Wayne came. Got money for fan club

23 March 68

Dropped in at John & Pat's place to get demo disc but Mrs McM couldn't find it

7 Apr 68

Liverpool dance with Seen. Chris introduced me to publicity photo people. Some kids asking about fan club. Spoke to Lindsay a lot. Showed boys "tampered" dossier. Chris nealy killed himself laughing.

7 Aug 68

John's 21st - Pat rang to invite me to John's party

10 Aug 68

John's party with Geoff. Raging party - John did strip. Left at 1.30am

22 Sep 68

Aussie Rules grand final all 3 grades. We lost all of them. Sat with McMahons. Wayne Trevella played a good game and Neil spoke to me


 

Some notes on the Diary:

  1. CYO: Catholic Youth Organisation. Many suburban Catholic churches had youth groups included in this organisation. One of their activities was a weekly dance, usually held on a Sunday evening. Those dances were our main source of regular gigs.
  2. There are several mentions of someone called "Lu" in here. That is Paul McCormack, the "Lu" comes from the reverse spelling of Paul, ie Luap. We went through a phase of saying words backwords, Jimmy was "Mij Nosnep" and to this day, John McMahon signs emails "nhoj". Our manager KJ Platt was fond of saying hybrid reverse stock sentences like "Stel og kcab to the rac" (let's go back to the car).
  3. "Lu due in hospital" refers to Paul's dislocated shoulder which required corrective surgery in 67.
  4. The most significant factor in the breakup of the band was John's impending military conscription. All males turning 20 were subject to a random selection for call-up (see 19/9/67). John did a tour of duty in Vietnam, but the rest of us did not get selected.
  5. For a while in 1968 Eileen continued fan club activities for The Seen - the immediate successor to The Limmericks, even to the extent of inheriting some of their gigs. This was Jim Penson on drums, Rob Askew on bass, Lindsay Askew (Rob's younger brother) on guitar, Rob Toth (Lindsay's school chum) on organ, and Chris Millet on lead vocals. Lindsay had often filled in for missing players (including bass) in M'n'M and was a better guitarist than any of us, but he never sang and still doesn't. Prior to Chris Millet joining The Seen, we had auditioned a singer who was killed in a car crash before he could come to the first full-on rehearsal (see 9/11/67). Lindsay and Rob Toth went on to be founding members of Flake. Mick Gaul, eventually also a Flake member, replaced Rob Askew when Rob became a shift worker. It records here that on 17/2/68 The Seen played a guest spot with the Plastic Tears at Shrublands Marrickville - The Tears were a precursor to Flake.

 

Last Updated by Rob Askew - February 2009